The bump was just to you show your signature, wasn't?

Quote from DANIEL-CRO :

When turn ON famous FORCE MODE, driver will be drawn whatever you select in View -> Draw Driver/Wheel. I reallly wanned to gain some advantage by using this mode, but then I couldn't see my speedometer

Turn ON virtual speedometer...

Quote from jordyb :

Private Server + Cheat engine + FO8 on Kyoto oval = 10,000km in like 5 minutes.
I know someone who's done it many times and got the 'most traveled distance in a month' on LFS world by just doing 20 minutes of driving.

I agree, who cares!? He's not bothering anyone other than the Addicts who want to be top on LFSWorld.

By doing that, you will complete laps... And, use fuel.

He made all this without completing one single lap

Luke, I am your driver!

Mclaren F1 GTR

Quote from Flame CZE :

Can someone explain this to me?

Same thing as Dolan comics...

25000 kms in one day is very strange.

Average of OVER 1000 km/h, is more.

Only with 23 liters of fuel, is really awkward.

Having a PB of 0.02s, its freaking strange.




But, without completing one single lap... :wtf2:

Quote from Specht77 :

The camera inside moves too much, it seems that the driver is not wearing any seatbelt, I had to play on the good camera, and that rev counter without number is too arcade

Im not sure about it because i never played it, but i think that is because he cars and the tracks are too old and bumpy compared to the europeans (the real life cars/tracks)... When you watch a race you can see the cars jumping at some corners and straights...

EDIT: Comparison between real life and simulator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xaxxs7CPnlM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-yDKLJC68c

Last edited by Si Mclaren, Mon, 9 Jul 2012 19:49.

Loves F1.

It's a cruiser.

Quote from DANIEL-CRO :

I agree profile of wings depends a lot of lift, but still every wing should provide some lift in oposide direction no mater how it looks. Lift force is few thousand times lower in backwards than forward at same speed. IMO even with the best wing profile there shouldn't be so much difference,


thats why I put this
but imagine if you got force pushing your car independent of wheels than it would

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_4I12wwBIE

If it works on NASCAR, why won't on Single Seaters?

Quote from tristancliffe :

The angle of attack has little to do with it (more to do with drag). The profile of the wing is what causes lift (downforce), and that will work properly only in the forwards direction. Backwards won't cause lift (although air under the car itself might)

It is right for F1 cars, where the wing profile is something like this: \_

But it may be possible F3 or FBMW cars?
http://cf.mp-cdn.net/db/92/e9e4291999284f2aa622b2f169de.jpg

PS:

Quote from DANIEL-CRO :

Not sure am I doing something wrong, but it seems I can't find any lift while going in reverse.
First I've tried to go forward (max wings...) and force from wheels to ground increases by like 3 times compared to car in stationary.
But while going in reverse at same speed forces stay same as in stationary. Car should be flying with all that lift

You will never lift wheels from ground going backwards too fast by the vehicle's only power. When the wheels lose enough grip, you will spin, in a inpossible case of not spinning, the wheels won't accelerate the car anymore (no grip, no traction), and the car will go back to ground...

Last edited by Si Mclaren, Thu, 5 Jul 2012 14:09. Reason : Added pic

Quote from -NightFly- :

http://i.imgur.com/Av1nw.jpg

That is not real, or is?

LFS is a program.

It cannot die, as it doesn't lives...


The community, if it is dead or alive, its all about the players, who are the community.


Development is not dead, until Scawen say that he gave up (i hope this never happens).


Answered?

This is just... Awesome!

Also it gives a meaning the roads behind the hairpin, making the track be more realistic

+1

Quote from Speed Senna :

Donations can be salary of devs for answering Forum questions

I prefer Scawen answering only if he wants/have time, not for money...

Actually he said millions of times that he stopped reading (and posting) on the forum to get more concentrated on the physics...

Quote from vourliotis :

LFS racing is dead.
Same tracks, same cars, same physics for loooong time.
Boring for good, old racers. They are racing at other sims (or not racing at all).

Strange, only S2 is boring... There are always good races with FBM/XFG+XRG@BL1, and servers are always busy

Quote from UnknownMaster21 :

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+1

I think that the biggest motivation for the devs would be the people stop whining on the forums and go to track...

LFS is "dead", not because the devs talk more or less, or if we get more cars or not... It is dead because people don't want more to race...

Quote from cargame.nl :

Nobody is waiting for new physics, so much other things can be done to create more realism. Tire physics are already on a high level and I personally doubt if it would have a positive effect on online simracing anyway. Who is actually waiting to sit with sweaty hands in a chair like Scawen excitedly reported last year? I think you only can make 5% of the online racing community happy with this. Maybe less...

The rest are average day to day racers, racing online because of the interaction. What do you expect as developer anyway, to create a real llife car feeling on a virtual road? With only a steering wheel? Get serious.

Just to say, now you made me understand why people play ridiculously unrealistic F1 mods on rF and thinks that PCARS is a great racing sim

Quote from Becky Rose :

Content is the one thing LFS desperately needs to re-appeal to it's longer time players.

Licence restrictions prohibit producing content that would appeal to a wider audience.

So as is LFS is a flash in the pan game for most players.

There is nothing about that model which suggests sustainability to me, which I suggest is a contributing factor to why LFS has slowed to a development crawl.

I just play S2 by 3 months, and also think that LFS needs more content...

But content made by developers, with realistic physics, not arcade-like mods...

Quote from mace65 :

LFS has to have a bit of variety doesn't it? Instead of racing servers after racing servers after racing servers, that would be boring. Anyway we all enjoy it and sometimes have very close racing... and thanks Eddy

If you think racing boring, why you bought a racing simulator?

Quote from Zac86 :

The reason why most over games are popular it is because modders are allowed to add content.

iRacing, SimRaceway and Project CARS are popular because modders aren't allowed to add content so everyone races with the same cars with realistic physics.

Problem?

_____________________

The biggest problem with mods, from my point of view, its because just 1% of the mods use realistic physics, what changes the point of the game from a simulator to arcade...

Just look the newest F1 mods for rFactor... Bad physics, but people just drive they because are the newest mods. rFactor become F1 Codemasters, arcade physics with good graphics...

I would prefer the game without mods, because every new car gets a lot of study and testing to get the most perfect simulation, we saw it on LFS with the FBM, we see it on SimRaceway, we see it on iRacing, but there is only 1 mod on rFactor made with real data and with help of real drivers (CART Factor)...


What you prefer, 2000 different cars with arcade physics or 30 cars with realistic physics? Think about it

Quote from lol_men :

Below i attach little explanation why i think drivers with very slow PCs are dangerous

First, i said 10 FPS, not 3... Not enough, but you can already hae a base of what the car is doing... Second, you are saying that a car will do 12 moves in 1 second? This doesn't makes sense...

Quote from CheerioDM :

Maybe I could help you to get an upgrade.
Please tell me your system specs.
Frame rate can always be a difference in ability.
Even if it looks smooth on your end.
Most people would not feel comfortable racing at 20 fps.
Or that rate in any other games.

Celeron D (2,26 Ghz)
1 GB Ram
HD 40 GB
Video card onboard 32 MB


Anything will be a help...

Quote from lol_men :

Bullshit! Nothing under 25 fps is playable.

I have limited fps to 15 and You can't catch any oversteer in time, You have to drive about 10 second slower on lap to be able to predict how car will behave because You can't see what is happening to Your car in present, there is about 0.0667 s delay between every frame + time of Your reaction + delay in steering (which is greater than normal - A LOT!) gives You about 0.25 - 0.3 second too late reaction.

And when You play online with others You have to see and predict correct route of other cars driving along with You, and when You drive over 150 kph (every car in LFS can reach that speed) even small move of Your controller changes line that Your car is driving on too much to see it in time and react to it with 15 fps!

To prove that you are wrong, i separated 3 parts, in Bold, Italic and Underlined:

Bold: Adaptation... When i get good FPS (~20, alone on track) and then the FPS fall back again, takes a little time to myself adaptate to the conditions...

Italic: You need to predict how the car will be every corner, not react. This is a difference between a good and a bad racer (not saying you are bad or i am good racer, but you really should know)...
I imagine if Scawen implemented rain, you would spin at the first rain drops...

Underlined: Same as above, you need to predict where/how the others cars will move... Basic tips for be a good overtaker or to avoid crashs...


Give a look to this video and see about what im talking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8hsSsiQVA

So you guys want to say that im awesome and can be a new WR holder if i get a better PC?

I never had any problem driving with <16 FPS, so the problem is not about the FPS... Also, just to remember: Movies, both on cinemas or Youtube, are just 24 FPS...

Any difference over this CAN'T BE NOTICED BY NAKED EYES...

Last edited by Si Mclaren, Tue, 8 May 2012 02:14.